78 LR Two Question 21

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g
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30 Game 1
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30 Game 2
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30 Game 3
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30 Game 4
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30 RC Passage 1
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30 RC Passage 2
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30 RC Passage 3
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30 RC Passage 4
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31 Game 1
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31 Game 2
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31 Game 3
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31 Game 4
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31 RC Passage 1
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31 RC Passage 2
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31 RC Passage 3
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31 RC Passage 4
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32 Game 1
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32 Game 2
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32 Game 3
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32 Game 4
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32 RC Passage 1
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32 RC Passage 2
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32 RC Passage 3
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32 RC Passage 4
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33 Game 1
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33 Game 2
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33 Game 3
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33 Game 4
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33 RC Passage 1
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33 RC Passage 2
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33 RC Passage 3
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33 RC Passage 4
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34 Game 1
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34 Game 2
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34 Game 3
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34 Game 4
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34 RC Passage 1
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34 RC Passage 2
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34 RC Passage 3
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34 RC Passage 4
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35 Game 1
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35 Game 2
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35 Game 3
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35 Game 4
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35 RC Passage 1
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35 RC Passage 2
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35 RC Passage 3
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35 RC Passage 4
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36 Game 1
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36 Game 2
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36 Game 3
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36 Game 4
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36 RC Passage 1
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36 RC Passage 2
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36 RC Passage 3
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36 RC Passage 4
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37 Game 1
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37 Game 2
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37 Game 3
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37 Game 4
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37 RC Passage 1
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37 RC Passage 2
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37 RC Passage 3
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37 RC Passage 4
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38 Game 1
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38 Game 2
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38 Game 3
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38 Game 4
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38 RC Passage 1
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38 RC Passage 2
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38 RC Passage 3
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38 RC Passage 4
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39 Game 1
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39 Game 2
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39 Game 3
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39 Game 4
rc
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39 RC Passage 1
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39 RC Passage 2
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39 RC Passage 3
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39 RC Passage 4
g
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40 Game 1
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40 Game 2
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40 Game 3
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40 Game 4
rc
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40 RC Passage 1
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40 RC Passage 2
rc
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40 RC Passage 3
rc
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40 RC Passage 4
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41 Game 1
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41 Game 2
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41 Game 3
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41 Game 4
rc
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41 RC Passage 1
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41 RC Passage 2
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41 RC Passage 3
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41 RC Passage 4
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42 Game 1
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42 Game 2
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42 Game 3
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42 Game 4
rc
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42 RC Passage 1
rc
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42 RC Passage 2
rc
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42 RC Passage 3
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42 RC Passage 4
g
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43 Game 1
g
sec-4
43 Game 2
g
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43 Game 3
g
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43 Game 4
rc
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43 RC Passage 1
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43 RC Passage 2
rc
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43 RC Passage 3
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43 RC Passage 4
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44 Game 1
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44 Game 2
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44 Game 3
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44 Game 4
rc
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44 RC Passage 1
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44 RC Passage 2
rc
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44 RC Passage 3
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44 RC Passage 4
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45 Game 1
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45 Game 2
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45 Game 3
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45 Game 4
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45 RC Passage 1
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45 RC Passage 2
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45 RC Passage 3
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45 RC Passage 4
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46 Game 1
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46 Game 2
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46 Game 3
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46 Game 4
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46 RC Passage 1
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46 RC Passage 2
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46 RC Passage 3
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46 RC Passage 4
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47 Game 1
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47 Game 2
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47 Game 3
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47 Game 4
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47 RC Passage 1
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47 RC Passage 2
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47 RC Passage 3
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47 RC Passage 4
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48 Game 1
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48 Game 2
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48 Game 3
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48 Game 4
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48 RC Passage 1
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48 RC Passage 2
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48 RC Passage 3
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48 RC Passage 4
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49 Game 1
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49 Game 2
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49 Game 3
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49 Game 4
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49 RC Passage 1
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49 RC Passage 2
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49 RC Passage 3
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49 RC Passage 4
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50 Game 1
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50 Game 2
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50 Game 3
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50 Game 4
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50 RC Passage 1
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50 RC Passage 2
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50 RC Passage 3
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50 RC Passage 4
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51 Game 1
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51 Game 2
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51 Game 3
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51 Game 4
rc
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51 RC Passage 1
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51 RC Passage 2
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51 RC Passage 3
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51 RC Passage 4
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52 Game 1
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52 Game 2
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52 Game 3
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52 Game 4
rc
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52 RC Passage 1
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52 RC Passage 2
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52 RC Passage 3
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52 RC Passage 4
g
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53 Game 1
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53 Game 2
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53 Game 3
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53 Game 4
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53 RC Passage 1
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53 RC Passage 2
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53 RC Passage 3
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53 RC Passage 4
g
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54 Game 1
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54 Game 2
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54 Game 3
g
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54 Game 4
rc
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54 RC Passage 1
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54 RC Passage 2
rc
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54 RC Passage 3
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54 RC Passage 4
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55 Game 1
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55 Game 2
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55 Game 3
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55 Game 4
rc
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55 RC Passage 1
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55 RC Passage 2
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55 RC Passage 3
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55 RC Passage 4
g
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56 Game 1
g
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56 Game 2
g
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56 Game 3
g
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56 Game 4
rc
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56 RC Passage 1
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56 RC Passage 2
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56 RC Passage 3
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56 RC Passage 4
g
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57 Game 1
g
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57 Game 2
g
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57 Game 3
g
sec-1
57 Game 4
rc
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57 RC Passage 1
rc
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57 RC Passage 2
rc
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57 RC Passage 3
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57 RC Passage 4
g
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58 Game 1
g
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58 Game 2
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58 Game 3
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58 Game 4
rc
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58 RC Passage 1
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58 RC Passage 2
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58 RC Passage 3
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58 RC Passage 4
g
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59 Game 1
g
sec-1
59 Game 2
g
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59 Game 3
g
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59 Game 4
rc
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59 RC Passage 1
rc
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59 RC Passage 2
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59 RC Passage 3
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59 RC Passage 4
g
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60 Game 1
g
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60 Game 2
g
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60 Game 3
g
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60 Game 4
rc
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60 RC Passage 1
rc
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60 RC Passage 2
rc
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60 RC Passage 3
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60 RC Passage 4
g
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61 Game 1
g
sec-3
61 Game 2
g
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61 Game 3
g
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61 Game 4
rc
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61 RC Passage 1
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61 RC Passage 2
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sec-1
61 RC Passage 3
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61 RC Passage 4
g
sec-3
62 Game 1
g
sec-3
62 Game 2
g
sec-3
62 Game 3
g
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62 Game 4
rc
sec-1
62 RC Passage 1
rc
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62 RC Passage 2
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sec-1
62 RC Passage 3
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62 RC Passage 4
g
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63 Game 1
g
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63 Game 2
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63 Game 3
g
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63 Game 4
rc
sec-4
63 RC Passage 1
rc
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63 RC Passage 2
rc
sec-4
63 RC Passage 3
rc
sec-4
63 RC Passage 4
g
sec-2
64 Game 1
g
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64 Game 2
g
sec-2
64 Game 3
g
sec-2
64 Game 4
rc
sec-4
64 RC Passage 1
rc
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64 RC Passage 2
rc
sec-4
64 RC Passage 3
rc
sec-4
64 RC Passage 4
g
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65 Game 1
g
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65 Game 2
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65 Game 3
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65 Game 4
rc
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65 RC Passage 1
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65 RC Passage 2
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65 RC Passage 3
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65 RC Passage 4
g
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70 Game 1
g
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70 Game 2
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70 Game 3
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70 Game 4
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70 RC Passage 1
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70 RC Passage 2
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70 RC Passage 3
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70 RC Passage 4
g
sec-2
71 Game 1
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71 Game 2
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71 Game 3
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71 Game 4
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71 RC Passage 1
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71 RC Passage 2
rc
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71 RC Passage 3
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71 RC Passage 4
g
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72 Game 1
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72 Game 2
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72 Game 3
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72 Game 4
rc
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72 RC Passage 1
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72 RC Passage 2
rc
sec-1
72 RC Passage 3
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72 RC Passage 4
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73 Game 1
g
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73 Game 2
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73 Game 3
g
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73 Game 4
rc
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73 RC Passage 1
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73 RC Passage 2
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sec-1
73 RC Passage 3
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sec-1
73 RC Passage 4
g
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74 Game 1
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74 Game 2
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74 Game 3
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74 Game 4
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75 Game 1
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75 Game 2
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75 Game 3
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75 Game 4
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75 RC Passage 1
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75 RC Passage 2
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75 RC Passage 3
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75 RC Passage 4
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76 Game 1
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76 Game 2
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76 Game 3
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76 Game 4
rc
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76 RC Passage 1
rc
sec-1
76 RC Passage 2
rc
sec-1
76 RC Passage 3
rc
sec-1
76 RC Passage 4
g
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77 Game 1
g
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77 Game 2
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77 Game 3
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77 Game 4
rc
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77 RC Passage 1
rc
sec-1
77 RC Passage 2
rc
sec-1
77 RC Passage 3
rc
sec-1
77 RC Passage 4
g
sec-2
78 Game 1
g
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78 Game 2
g
sec-2
78 Game 3
g
sec-2
78 Game 4
rc
sec-4
78 RC Passage 1
rc
sec-4
78 RC Passage 2
rc
sec-4
78 RC Passage 3
rc
sec-4
78 RC Passage 4
g
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79 Game 1
g
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79 Game 2
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79 Game 3
g
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79 Game 4
rc
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79 RC Passage 1
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79 RC Passage 2
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79 RC Passage 3
rc
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79 RC Passage 4
g
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80 Game 1
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80 Game 2
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80 Game 3
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80 Game 4
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80 RC Passage 1
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80 RC Passage 2
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80 RC Passage 3
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80 RC Passage 4
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81 Game 1
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81 Game 2
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81 Game 3
g
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81 Game 4
rc
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81 RC Passage 1
rc
sec-1
81 RC Passage 2
rc
sec-1
81 RC Passage 3
rc
sec-1
81 RC Passage 4
g
sec-2
82 Game 1
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82 Game 2
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82 Game 3
g
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82 Game 4
rc
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82 RC Passage 1
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82 RC Passage 2
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82 RC Passage 3
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82 RC Passage 4
g
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83 Game 1
g
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83 Game 2
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83 Game 3
g
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83 Game 4
rc
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83 RC Passage 1
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83 RC Passage 2
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83 RC Passage 3
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83 RC Passage 4
g
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84 Game 1
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84 Game 2
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84 Game 3
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84 Game 4
rc
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84 RC Passage 1
rc
sec-1
84 RC Passage 2
rc
sec-1
84 RC Passage 3
rc
sec-1
84 RC Passage 4
g
sec-1
89 Game 1
g
sec-1
89 Game 2
g
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89 Game 3
g
sec-1
89 Game 4
rc
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89 RC Passage 1
rc
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89 RC Passage 2
rc
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89 RC Passage 3
rc
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89 RC Passage 4

Comments

Carlo Aguirre's picture

im confused..isn't saying they have no more iron in their diets YET are predisposed to it bc genetics affirming an ALT cause, i.e. weakening the argument???

majorgeneraldave's picture

No. It's eliminating the possibility that a genetic predisposition* is causing the disease.

 

*Ugh. An earlier version of this response incorrectly said (A) ruled out the dietary factor. (A) in fact rules out genetic predisposition as a factor within our "iron eating" group. That group does have more Parkinson's, but (according to (A)) doesn't have a genetic predisposition. This makes it more likely that it's the iron-eating that causes Parkinson's in that group.

gusi_lulu's picture

I still don´t see it. If it is not the iron in their diets but their genetic predisposition, doesn´t that favor the genetic cause and not the iron? Thank you.

majorgeneraldave's picture

(First, your question came in response to an earlier, and incorrect (sorry, everybody!) version of my comment above. The corrected comment may itself solve your dilemma. If not, read on).

From our argument, we know one correlation: people with iron-rich diets have more Parkinson's than people without iron-rich diets.

For that correlation to imply a causal relationship (here, as always!) we must assume there's not some other cause.

(A) tells us that the people with the iron-rich diets who get Parkinson's aren't getting it because of a genetic predisposition.

This is because according to (A), the people with the iron-rich diets are not people with genetic predispositions for the disease.

So if the irony dieters do get Parkinson's, but not because of a genetic predisposition, then it may be because of the iron in their diets.

Clearer?