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Apr 27 2011
#1
majorgeneraldave
Live Classroom Games
Jul 13 2011
#2
jaredberman
Book 101 pg 26
#10-new rule question
The new rule asks for a complete and accurate list of the cars that must be green. But, if they are making one orange car green than there must be a total of 3 green cars. Which is why I thought the answer was E because it includes 3 cars with green-making the layout GPGOGP which doesn't violate any rules as far as I can tell. So why is the answer D (only car 1 and 3)?
Jul 15 2011
#3
majorgeneraldave
Because though car 5 could be green, it doesn't have to be green. You could put the third green car at place 6 without breaking any rules.
Since the question asked what must be true, you're looking for only what must be, not what is possible.
Jul 17 2011
#4
jaredberman
ok so in the future when it asks for a complete and accurate list that means "must be true."
thank you major!
Jul 17 2011
#5
majorgeneraldave
Well, it depends on what you're asked for a complete and accurate list OF. In this question, you were asked for a list of the cars that must be green. In other questions, you may be asked for a list of places the green cars COULD be (which in this instance would include 5 and 6). Cool?
P.S. You demoted me. It's Major General!
Jul 19 2011
#6
Danielle
F is assigned to the same panel as G.
Is that the same as: G is assigned to the same panel as F.
or can F stand alone in a group?
Jul 19 2011
#7
majorgeneraldave
As you've presented it, the two rules are the same. If they're on the same panel, then they are on the same panel.
However, it's possible that you intend to refer to a different (although similar-looking) rule. Consider a rule that says that "Any panel to which G is assigned must also contain F."
In that rule, G will always be packaged with F, but F could stand alone.
Think about it when conveyed conditionally:
G must be with F should look like this:
G --> F (everywhere you see G, you must also find an F)
And the contrapositive is of course always true:
F --> G (if F is not present, neither can G be).
If this is the rule, then G can only be in a group with F, but it's possible for F to be in a group without G.
Hope this helps,
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Aug 19 2011
#8
jaredberman
I just answered my own question and now i can't figure out how to delete this so....
WOOHOO!
Aug 19 2011
#9
majorgeneraldave
I'm not absolutely certain I understand your question. There is not any exception at work in our symbolization of those rules.
Have you watched the video on that game? That might help.
Try that; if it doesn't help, I'll see if I can clear it up for you.
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Aug 19 2011
#10
majorgeneraldave
Woo-hoo!
Aug 24 2011
#11
Michal
Hey Dave, here is the REAL question I had (d'oh!):
p. 132 book 101, question 1.
Which one of the following is a complete and accurate list of the children who must b among those assigned to shared lockers?
It's obvious that it is "J" and that it can't be "R" but how do I show that since N and T can't be next to each other that forces them to share a locker? Or is it "must be among those" so J must be with EITHER N or T and I am being silly? And since J must be with EITHER N or T, and that is the only answer option with J, N and T, we don't even need to consider the possibility of other boys needing to share? I was wondering if there was some way to show place holders of this so that I could be confident in my answer?
As always, thanks for your help!!
Michal
Aug 24 2011
#12
majorgeneraldave
The reason both N and T have to be in shared lockers is that there are two shared lockers, the shared lockers have to be boy/girl combos, and R doesn't share.
Any of the boys could share, but only J must share.
Clear?
Sep 5 2011
#13
HelpJohn
Hello Dave - Currently re-doing confusing games. Stumbled upon Test 40, Section 2, #11-17. I don't really know how to set it up? I just got #11 by POE with the rules.
Sep 5 2011
#14
majorgeneraldave
Hey, John,
There's a video explanation available here.
Also, just don't worry too much about this game. It's weird. Here's a chart of what games have looked like this millennium. You can see this one's a one-off.
Be of good cheer,
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Sep 8 2011
#17
jaredberman
Hey dave question about PT 36 S4 Game #1 about the fruits
In/Out games seem to be my demise, question 2 has thrown me off. Why is the answer (d) tangerines instead of (a) figs? I understand that if not k then t...Is that the rule that governs this question?
Maybe I am missing something in this rule: if W then F or T or Both. Additionally, How can you show the contrapositive of this? Is it not F and T or neither then not W?
S-O-S!
Sep 15 2011
#19
jaredberman
Hey major general. taking prep test 40 and a little confused on the third game in section two about the airlines connecting the different cities
Could you link me the video to it? Or explain the set up---could only figure out the first 4/7 questions